NPR Code Switch

There has been a flood of response to Tizon's article, and The Atlantic has followed up with two good ones, one by Ai-Jen Poo, a MacArthur "Genius" fellow, whose work centers on domestic workers' rights. And another by Vann Newkirk II, an Atlantic staff writer, which argues that liberation is a long-term process: "Enslaved people are not so much set free as they are made free..." On our own podcast this week, Shereen and Gene talk to Alex Tizon's widow about how he felt about finally airing his thoughts about the woman he knew as Lola (the Tagalog word for grandmother); with a professor who studies modern-day enslavement about why even the word "slave" is problematic; and with a woman who said she experienced domestic enslavement for several years. It is riveting and uncomfortable, and worth the listen.